Monday, April 4, 2022

Money Monday- Crunching the Numbers

      


     While not a great spring weekend weather wise, it was enough to get me outside longer, inviting fresh air and I do feel mentally better. Thanks for the comments on Saturdays blog about continuing to document springs arrival. I think it will be a fun little project to see the lilacs slowly emerge and the green growth to envelop the pond once again. It's now my countdown, 69 months to retirement, but could be as few as 17 for DH if we look at our math again. Warning for folks outside of the US, this is anther boring numbers post that will likely leave your head spinning from the overly ridiculous American money system.

     DH has had a challenging work experience for months, with nothing he can do about it. It's hard being in the car business when there's barely any product. He works longer hours juggling what there is in business, dealing with angry people, and incompetent and unscrupulous colleagues that show up when they feel like it, but then think they can pick up the store traffic when they actually bother to show up, ahead of DH. This along with the physical toll of being on his feet all day, and in and out on cold days and the hot days to come, is more wearing than one might think. Anyone in retail can probably attest to this. Long way of saying, we're crunching numbers again to see if we can knock four or more months off of his retirement date. He's adamant that he won't retire prior to our college kids graduation. That's 13 months from now. He'll turn 62 later that summer. That's now the new target, rather than holding off until the first of the year, and least my new target to figure out. . 

     There's wins and losses to slicing four months of employment off DH's schedule. On the positive side, we'd move in a slightly lower federal tax bracket by (based on historical earnings) 2% and state by 1.05%, even if DH decided to take early SSI withdrawal. That's more take home in my paycheck in 2024, but likely for 2023 as well if he stops earning four months earlier as we are on the cusp between two brackets. The stopping of DH's earning isn't as great an impact through that tax lens. 30% of his earnings minimally go in taxes, and an additional 6.2% in SSI. I'm not saying a statement about taxes being bad or good. It's just fact that his take home is significantly less than his salary. Of course the obvious is he would no longer be putting into his 401 K and his lifetime earnings for SSI will stop, reducing both of those amounts, but hey, at some point they'd stop anyway. Bottom line calculations lead me to think that if we can comfortably live just on my income this year, knowing the financial loss isn't 100% of his income, we can make this work four months earlier. He's not happy with where our cash savings would be at that point and feels the four final months would make a comfortable difference in his peace of mind, and still have him roughly done before hard winter sets in January, plus could get his three weeks of vacation paid out for 2024. That is all true as well and he hates the idea of losing vacation accrual pay out. 

     We know our quality of life will increase dramatically once he no longer works that job with those hours and schedule. We'd have Saturdays together to work on projects, play with pup, see friends and family. He can take care of pesky life admin things any time during the week that he now crams into his Thursday day off.  He can resume many of his hobbies and spend more time at the lake and with his mom while she's healthy like he probably wished he could have done with his dad. I've never heard someone say they wish they had less time with their parents before they passed away. I treasure that I spent pretty much every Friday or Saturday with mine before they died and were of sound mind. Who knows what time any of us have and if we can add one more late summer and fall to his free schedule, why push to work longer?

     We're still about $1,000 behind living off just my income for the year. Point to remember,  we cash flowed our DC trip, and had we not done that, we'd be ahead. That' was a good test to see if not only can we live on just my income, can we do a small bit of travelling too. I'm cutting corners where I can without cutting quality of life to make up what we haven't yet saved this year. I'm almost making a game of it, part of a personal challenge to cut waste, while increasing joy.  Other than Monday and Thursdays, I don't even want money or thrift to come up on my blog. That's where we are. We haven't made the numbers work how DH wants yet, but it's a start. 





16 comments:

  1. I can only imagine how hard that type of job would be on your body, for the reasons you've described, as well as the constantly dealing with the unknown each month (inventory, # of customers, sales forecasts) & how it impacts your compensation. I say, whatever you need to do to narrow that timeline sounds like a huge win to me. Good for you all for figuring it out.

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    1. I think so too, and will keep trying to figure it out. Now, if we could figure out some better passive income, tat would be great.

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  2. Knowing you, you will make the numbers work. Have you guys thought about him getting a p/t or different type of job to work at a couple years if he retires earlier than planned? He could probably find something he would enjoy and then still bring in some money to offset retiring earlier than planned.

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    1. We're only talking a few months, so likely any job that would interest him, likely wouldn't be just for a few months, nor let him no work at the holidays, or take off whenever he wants. We are (he is) though looking at opportunities for more flexible revenue generating opportunities. He's got some ideas and if he could get them up and earning in the next 9-12 months, it would be much easier to convince him.

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  3. I'm sure your husband would want to fully retire, but would a part-time job work for the short term to get him through those last few months? I'm thinking with his experience, perhaps something a shuttle driver would work. It would take your family income into a lower tax bracket and still allow for some savings if you're trying to live on your one income.

    I'm sure it will all come together in good time.

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    1. Possible, but not probably that he'd want to take on another job. He'd be better off just setting very narrow terms with his current employer, which a few others did when they retired. That's not to say he isn't exploring earning opportunities while being retired.

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    2. I was just thinking the same thing. My friend moved back to the UK and while they didn't need the money her husband took on a few hours a week delivering for a florist's, mainly for the company/social contact. Who knows, it might work!

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  4. Sounds like your dh has a tough job, which takes a toll.
    I think you have done a great job with the numbers, esp with only being $1000 behind from living on your income, and that includes the trip to DC. Wishing you the best.

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    1. I do as well, and I think we are in a hard time of year where bills are high, and we all know inflation is kicking a lot of us, right.

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  5. It sounds like you have a grip on getting it all ironed out even if he decides to retire early. Another thing to remember though hard to probably track is a few expenses will go away when he retires such as lunches, snacks out, clothing expense for work, gas for traveling to work etc. While small amounts, they do add up over the year. I noticed quite a bit less weekly expenses like that when my husband retired.

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    1. Well, knowing my husband, the meals out wouldn't necessarily decrease and he literally is a mile away. Now with me workign form home, I could see that if he worked farther away-we've slashed gas to nealry nothing, and my work wardrobe is pretty much my same clothes I wear all the time!

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  6. I feel bad for your hubby. One of our friend husbands was in a similar fix, and he just quit 2 years before retiring and took a job as a produce manager at the local Albertson's. Loved it and still works part time and fills in on vacations.

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    1. I think he has a lot of possible options for earning some revenue without being so tied up for so many hours in a week. We married good men that want to provide for their families, so it's hard to decide enough.

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  7. My husband just moved up the ladder so we are lucky to have more income right now, although the stress is harder on him. We're chatting around me not going back to work full-time (I'm currently at 4 days/week), just because it's been so good for my mental health to have that extra day. So much to figure out!

    Good luck to your husband. I worked in retail for 17 years before I switched to office work, and retail is horrendous. Getting paid so low, having to work all the holidays/evenings, getting treated like sh*t, disrespected by customers, and as you say, it's physically taxing as well as being a mental strain. I hope you guys can make it work!

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    1. What's unfortunate is that despite the wear and tear, he is good at his job, trustworthy, and does enjoy the work. It's the current environment in the industry that is really taxing on him. Congratulations to L. I'm trying hard to get my flex Friday's back, but even with my new boss encouraging it. she herself plans things on Fridays that makes it hard for someone to actually take their day off.

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  8. Your husband's job sounds just like Tony's, he's also in sales - on the frontline for miserable customers, slacking co-workers and a boss that constantly takes advantage. When I sold my parents' house a few years ago I paid off the rest of his mortgage so he could cut back his hours and do a five day week instead of the six (and often 7) days he's worked for 30 years. He paid me back in a year! xxx

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