Saturday, August 29, 2020

How Much is Enough?

     Do others find themselves asking the questions, how much is enough, more often than you used to? I find I am examining the answer to that question in everything from emergency fund reserves to toilet paper to  washable masks these days. Take for instance moving our daughter back to school.  Her medical kit was to include three reusable, washable face mask, of which the school is providing one. Well, she went back with at least a weeks worth, knowing one may be left behind somewhere, as well as making sure she regularly has a clean one ready to go. I admit that while not doing panic buying on  items like toilet paper, I am making sure I have at least a two multi-pack reserve. Sure it has been available regularly now, if not a great brand selection; But after the insanity of spring that got me down to four rolls before my daughter bought me a pack on her rare Walmart trips, I won't be caught off guard this fall. I find TP commercials  right extremely annoying now-as if we have a choice of brands!

     The old adage of having three months of living expenses morphed into having six months long before the Covid19 crisis. After  seeing that we have passed the six month mark of the pandemic in the US, six months seems too little. Yet, this is so far away from making it a reality, for most families and individuals. I continue to question every non-essential purchase, and even the essential ones like food and clothing, for why I bought what I did. I am starting to truly ask these three questions. Do I need it? If I need it, is there a less expensive and less wasteful version? If I don't need it, will it bring me incredible joy? If I don"t need it now, will it save me resources in the long run? I have had varying degrees of success. Packing our own snacks for the road, a good choice. Ordering take out sandwiches, an expensive choice that added waste. Getting a take out coffee, might give me joy in supporting an extended family members coffee house and meeting up with a friend, but using a non-recyclable coffee cup, entirely wasteful.

     I had an expensive August. The water heater element went out and we either could replace the element/repair for $1400 with no guarantee, or replace the water heater and have a warranty for the life of living in this house. We went with new, but was that wasteful-both financially and  environmentally? We had a leak this week that cost us $700! We had additional items for our daughters move. These things in life still happen, and because they don't come at convenient times, I feel like more than ever I can't let our fiscal guard down. 

     With the exception of disinfectant wipes which I can just use cleaning product and paper towels or rags, I am not too worried about the supply chain this fall. Still I want to replace items in the pantry and freezer as they are used.While Covid was not here yet, though DH seemed to have all the symptoms, I remember how sick he was for four weeks. Should we both get sick at the same time, we won't be going anywhere, and would rather not put anyone at risk, bringing us supplies. Even if only one of us gets sick, the other should stay put as well. I am not stock piling, but I am creating reserves. I want to add dry chick peas and powdered milk to my pantry as a couple staples for so many recipes

     DH's retirement for January 2024 is still on target, and mine as well. if  choose, for July 2028.  We though are a long ways away from the safety net I would like for DH to retire next March comfortably, though I think our quality of life would dramatically improve. Maybe we can make it work sometime earlier than 2024, if not as early as next spring.  I just don't think we have met our personal answer to the question, how much is enough. 




14 comments:

  1. You are right to question every non-essential purchase, Sam. I'm doing that here as well. I let the unemployment stack up each week, so I can pay the bills once a month. I think it's wise to not spend money we may need on essentials sometime. We bought more toilet paper online this week from Target and had it delivered.

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    1. We thought we were going to get ahead but costs add up. The water heater came from a longer term account for things slike major replacements, but the $700 for the leak repair was out of regular cash flow. Yikes,

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  2. Re how much is enough to retire that's a tough one. I went over and over constantly looking at my budget and how much I would have to retire on. Even though I'm thorough I was still convinced I had forgotten something and it would be a disaster. I hadn't and it wasn't. The big thing for me is that I don't have the back-up capacity to work any more so while I have savings which I keep adding to every month (new to me car etc if and when) I am cautious too. I think you're wise and clued in enough to know in your heart of hearts when you can afford for your hubs, at least, to retire.

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    1. HE and I need to get on the same page. I think we could afford for him to retire at least a year, if not two earlier than he thinks, but he does not. Maybe if this Covid thing mitigates by spring, he will think differently. I'd like him to start thinking that perhaps maybe an adjustment o part time after MArch might be a first step.

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  3. I sure do question my purchases and needs/wants nowadays. I understand your concerns. As for TP, thanks to my stupid hoarding, I do not see myself running out of that in the foreseeable future. Mind you, I bought all of those last year in 2019 before COVID was a thing. I have about five washable masks but, I always keep a few disposable ones in my purse and in my car, just in case. I also keep extra dry goods like beans, chickpeas and grains.

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    1. You have a sensible approach. Your planful, not hoarding! I do feel like the dry milk and more beans would be a good cushion for my brain.

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  4. How are you doing your financial planning, in order to give you the confidence of your retirement number? Perhaps by increasing the time investment in planning (if you haven't already) or trying out a few tools, you can feel more confident in your final number. Even if you end up adding 5% or something to that number, to accommodate for fluctuations, it could give you comfort.

    I say that knowing I need to do the same. Right now, we're further away than we used to be, because we invested in the house remodel. We're okay with that, and knowing I won't be doing work travel for at least another year helped to convince me, but I too need to rework my numbers.

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    1. Different calculators tell us different things. The out of pocket for health insurances is a major, if not the major, issue, and why I think we need a lot more cash saved up. We need to both be able to cover the premiums, and live off cash if the market takes a big nasty turn.

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  5. I can go and place my hands on anything I need. But, I still worry if I have enough for the future because I think supplies will become even more scarce. I never quit buying. i don't use as I ordinarily would, stopping when I am stocked for the short-term future. I think two years would be a reasonable time to expect to need supplies.

    The guy next door carried in something for us. I insisted to Tommy that he should wear and mask and put one by the front door in case he did not have one. He didn't and willingly put on the mask. Then, he left with it!!! What did I expect? For him to give it back? Well, I just did not think. But, it made me aware I should keep a mask around for someone to use and take away. No, I don't have enough of those around.

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    1. You and TPol both make me think I should buy some disposable just in case someone stops by and needs one. That is very sensible. We have throw to four each right now, but I wash the use ines daily. So you think two years is the time we will need to be stocked up? That scares me. I would not be that ahead.

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  6. I'm right there with you in asking these questions. We've weathered storms and evacuations that have created temporary local shortages but nothing like we've experienced over the past six months - and still ongoing for some products at this point. Very frightening! I'm also having trouble balancing the environmental impacts. Spouse wears a reusable mask because he goes to a reasonably germ free work place but as we are a high risk household that also interacts with a high risk household (inlaws) the oncologist has requested disposable mask and gloves in public places like grocery shopping. I've cut down all of my trips to the bare minimum on an almost bi weekly/monthly basis but that's still generating a lot of trash.

    Stockpiling - we'll be moving in another year to two so I'm torn: how much will we use, how much will be left over that I will have to deal with or (pay to) move...Didn't grocery shopping used to be easy? Frankly, I don't think people in our area have stopped hoarding. When walking up to a store, you can now tell what's in stock by the carts exiting. I used to see toilet paper in a cart once in awhile - now, pallets are on the floor but it seems like people are buying in two, three, four packs at a time.

    This is simply a scary time. :(

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    1. I've only seen one at a time lately, but with stores having two pack limits in most cases, which helps. My sisters and I are laughing at the shortage of Chicken Gumbo Soup, a staple ingredient in our family sloppy joes. Sometimes rice is low and other times it is fine. Cream of mushroom is anther staple that I can't see to find. I worry too about all the disposable waste.

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  7. These times are so uncertain, it's hard to know what is enough of anything. My husband wants to retire so badly, but he's afraid it's too early, yet with talks of cutting social security, there's no way of knowing if it will be there in two years. Very troubling times we are in right now.

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    1. We are planning for no social security. If it is there, then we will be better off, but I just am afraid to count on it. We have 9 and 13 years before age 67, so safer for us to assumeit will be gone.

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